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EP96: Should Libertarians 'Party' With Donald Trump? - Gracearchy with Jim Babka
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Donald Trump, the Republican nominee-in-waiting, is slated to speak at the Libertarian National Convention in a few weeks. Is this a terrible strategy? ...real opportunity? ...enemies in the tent? ...a moment of grace?
In this provocative episode of Gracearchy, Jim Babka convenes a riveting panel discussion on whether the Libertarian Party should keep this engagement with Donald Trump. Former Libertarian Party national directors Dan Fishman and Perry Willis dive into the strategic implications and ethical considerations of Trump's involvement.
There are moments of laughter, insight, and intensity. You'll hear contrasting views on the potential impact on the party's future, the complexities of political alliances, and what Trump's participation might signal for libertarian values.
Don't miss the part where Dan and Jim make a public bet about the presidential balloting.
Tune in to explore the intersection of politics, principle, and the pursuit of liberty in this interesting moment for the Libertarian Party.
TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Theme
0:44 Zero Aggression
2:01 The question and the experts
3:45 Why should people appreciate libertarianism?
6:18 Libertarian testimonies
11:19 Becoming LP national director
19:35 Is 'The Invitation' a good or bad idea?
27:35 Will Trump actually show up and take questions?
30:31 How will the delegates behave in front of cameras?
36:08 Should the LP national committee reconsider?
37:46 Why at the convention and not after?
38:54 What's in it for Mr. Art of the Deal?
40:36 Donald Trump nominated by the Libertarians?
48:08 Trump still sore about Jo Jorgensen?
51:14 Ballot access matters
54:11 How Libertarians have won
55:54 Control - Trump or the LP?
56:45 The doomsday of the Libertarian Party?
1:00:17 Understanding Trump
1:06:10 Convention is sacred ground for the party
1:07:53 Steelmanning the inviters
1:09:36 Retribution for Jorgensen's Georgia vote total?
1:10:41 LP helping secure presidential pardons?
1:14:08 The Daryl Davis lesson
1:15:06 Looking for the serendipitous aspects
Bill Protzmann is your moderator.
ZERO AGGRESSION PROJECT - https://zeroaggressionproject.org/ - is our sponsor.
But the views expressed are exclusively those of the participants, and not necessarily those of the board, staff, or supporters of the Zero Aggression Project.
Thank you to Randy Garbin for our amazing episode thumbnails: http://randygarbin.com/
We are grateful to Sergio at https://www.youtube.com/@KeysofMoonMusic for our intro theme.
► https://www.patreon.com/user?u=10500501
or
you can purchase his music on BandCamp:
► https://keysofmoon.bandcamp.com/
► If you have any questions please feel free to write to Sergio at: serjo.de.lua.music@gmail.com
Show notes created with the aid of ChatGPT 4.
Be grace-full to each other.
126 episoder
Manage episode 416271368 series 3498664
Donald Trump, the Republican nominee-in-waiting, is slated to speak at the Libertarian National Convention in a few weeks. Is this a terrible strategy? ...real opportunity? ...enemies in the tent? ...a moment of grace?
In this provocative episode of Gracearchy, Jim Babka convenes a riveting panel discussion on whether the Libertarian Party should keep this engagement with Donald Trump. Former Libertarian Party national directors Dan Fishman and Perry Willis dive into the strategic implications and ethical considerations of Trump's involvement.
There are moments of laughter, insight, and intensity. You'll hear contrasting views on the potential impact on the party's future, the complexities of political alliances, and what Trump's participation might signal for libertarian values.
Don't miss the part where Dan and Jim make a public bet about the presidential balloting.
Tune in to explore the intersection of politics, principle, and the pursuit of liberty in this interesting moment for the Libertarian Party.
TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Theme
0:44 Zero Aggression
2:01 The question and the experts
3:45 Why should people appreciate libertarianism?
6:18 Libertarian testimonies
11:19 Becoming LP national director
19:35 Is 'The Invitation' a good or bad idea?
27:35 Will Trump actually show up and take questions?
30:31 How will the delegates behave in front of cameras?
36:08 Should the LP national committee reconsider?
37:46 Why at the convention and not after?
38:54 What's in it for Mr. Art of the Deal?
40:36 Donald Trump nominated by the Libertarians?
48:08 Trump still sore about Jo Jorgensen?
51:14 Ballot access matters
54:11 How Libertarians have won
55:54 Control - Trump or the LP?
56:45 The doomsday of the Libertarian Party?
1:00:17 Understanding Trump
1:06:10 Convention is sacred ground for the party
1:07:53 Steelmanning the inviters
1:09:36 Retribution for Jorgensen's Georgia vote total?
1:10:41 LP helping secure presidential pardons?
1:14:08 The Daryl Davis lesson
1:15:06 Looking for the serendipitous aspects
Bill Protzmann is your moderator.
ZERO AGGRESSION PROJECT - https://zeroaggressionproject.org/ - is our sponsor.
But the views expressed are exclusively those of the participants, and not necessarily those of the board, staff, or supporters of the Zero Aggression Project.
Thank you to Randy Garbin for our amazing episode thumbnails: http://randygarbin.com/
We are grateful to Sergio at https://www.youtube.com/@KeysofMoonMusic for our intro theme.
► https://www.patreon.com/user?u=10500501
or
you can purchase his music on BandCamp:
► https://keysofmoon.bandcamp.com/
► If you have any questions please feel free to write to Sergio at: serjo.de.lua.music@gmail.com
Show notes created with the aid of ChatGPT 4.
Be grace-full to each other.
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