Welcome to Customer Growth Sessions, presented by Intergrowth. Join host Pat Ahern, Managing Partner at Intergrowth, as we discuss techniques to build and scale systems that boost profitability for up-and-coming ecommerce businesses.
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Customer Confidential: Untold Stories of Earned Growth
Rob Markey, Bain & Company partner and customer experience expert
The Customer Confidential Podcast unlocks a world of unparalleled customer and employee loyalty insights. Host Rob Markey, a Net Promoter System pioneer, uses his deep expertise and empathetic approach to challenge conventional wisdom, peel back layers of typical advice, and expose the real stories of industry transformation. Take a deep dive into discussions on CX, customer journey, customer insights, Net Promoter Score, and more. Every episode is a master class in loyalty. Guests include C ...
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The Intuitive Customer - Helping You Improve Your Customer Experience To Gain Growth
Colin Shaw, Beyond Philosophy LLC
We believe you should laugh and learn! 'The Intuitive Customer' podcast achieves this. Hosted by Colin Shaw, recognized as one of the top 150 business influencers by LinkedIn, where he has over 283,000 followers, and Prof. Ryan Hamilton, Emory University, discusses how you can improve your Customer Experience and gain growth. This review sums up: "The dynamic between the two hosts makes this podcast. Each brings a unique take on the topic and their own perspective and plays off each other se ...
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Psychological Pricing: 7 Practical Tips You Can Use Today to Boost Sales
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37:03Pricing. It’s one of the most critical decisions your business will ever make, yet most people approach it like a finger-in-the-air guessing game. But what if you could tap into psychological principles to not just set prices, but make your customers feel they’re getting a great deal? That’s what this episode of The Intuitive Customer is all about.…
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The Ins and Outs of Creating High Quality Clothing with Katya Eckert of A DOMANI
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30:49In this episode of Customer Growth Sessions, Pat Ahern interviews Katya Eckert, the founder of A DOMANI. Katya shares her journey of creating A DOMANI, a sustainable sleepwear brand. She discusses the behind-the-scenes process of taking apparel from idea to customer's front door, including determining the right type of fabric and finding a great ma…
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Ep. 243: When an 8% Donor Base Funds a University: Unlocking Hidden Alumni Engagement Opportunities
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35:17Episode 243: At Emory University, 99% of donations come from just 8% of donors. It’s a small alumni minority funding almost the majority of the university. This raises a big question: How do you cultivate loyalty among everyone else? In this episode, Emory’s Chief Experience Officer, Cutler Andrews, describes how they’re dismantling silos—by mergin…
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How to Evoke Emotions That Make Customers Come Back for More
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35:03Episode Summary: Are you evoking the right emotions in your customers, or are you unknowingly driving them away? In this episode, Colin Shaw and Professor Ryan Hamilton dive deep into the fascinating (and often overlooked) world of customer emotions. Emotions are at the heart of every customer experience—from frustration and neglect to trust and ha…
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Hiring an SEO Company: Hiring for Fit (Part 2)
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18:41Today, we're taking a break from interviewing experts to bring you our next episode of SEO Shorts — the segment where we explain complex SEO concepts in layman's terms. This episode is part 2 of our series on How to Hire an SEO Company. Missed part 1? Check it here. In this episode of Customer Growth Sessions, Intergrowth Managing Partner, Pat Aher…
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Silence Is Killing Your Business: The Innovation Cost of Quiet Teams
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35:31Episode Summary: How can you create an environment where your team feels safe to speak their minds without fear of judgment or reprisal? In this episode, Colin Shaw and Professor Ryan Hamilton are joined by Gary Keogh, an expert in psychological safety and a former corporate leader turned coach. Together, they dive into why fostering openness in te…
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Hiring an SEO Company: Hiring for Quality (Part 1)
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21:31Today, we're taking a break from interviewing experts to bring you our next episode of SEO Shorts — the segment where we explain complex SEO concepts in layman's terms. In this episode of Customer Growth Sessions, Intergrowth Managing Partner, Pat Ahern, provides a comprehensive guide on what to consider when hiring an SEO agency. He emphasizes the…
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10 Career Lessons You Need to Thrive in 2025
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32:42Episode Summary How do you set yourself apart in an ever-evolving professional landscape? In this episode of The Intuitive Customer, Colin Shaw and Ryan Hamilton dive deep into the career lessons they’ve learned over decades of navigating the twists and turns of professional life. This isn’t just another list of career tips—it's a roadmap for thriv…
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From Algorithms to Ad Budgets: David Casey from Vix Media Breaks Down TikTok Marketing
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31:23In this episode of Customer Growth Sessions, Pat Ahern interviews David Casey, the founding partner of Vix Media. David shares his deep insights into TikTok marketing strategies, algorithm-based content's significance, and the importance of effective ad budgeting. David explores why businesses should use TikTok, the advantages for B2B sectors, and …
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Breaking the Routine: How to Help Customers Form New Habits
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27:06Episode Summary In this episode of The Intuitive Customer, Colin Shaw and Professor Ryan Hamilton delve into the fascinating world of customer habits. Colin shares his recent experiences shopping at Publix, Aldi, and Whole Foods, uncovering how deeply ingrained habits shape our decisions as customers. The discussion explores the psychology behind h…
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Ep. 242: The Black Box Fallacy: Why Wells Fargo Doesn't Trust an AI It Can't Explain
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37:00Episode 242: Wells Fargo has established a clear position on artificial intelligence: If you can't explain how an AI model works, you shouldn't deploy it. This stance challenges the common assumption that black box algorithms are acceptable costs of advanced AI capabilities. In this episode, Kunal Madhok, Head of Data, Analytics, and AI for Wells F…
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Tariffs, Technology, and Trends: What 2025 Means For You and Your Customers
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31:57Episode Summary In this episode of The Intuitive Customer, Colin Shaw and Ryan Hamilton dive into the predictions shaping 2025 and their implications for customer experience. From economic uncertainty and its emotional impacts to the rise of AI in search behavior, they explore how these trends will influence customer decisions and business strategi…
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Building the Next Healthcare Revolution: Insights from Elo Health’s Ari Tulla
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44:36In this episode, Ari Tulla, the CEO of Elo Health, shares his expertise in personalized nutrition and the intersection of AI and healthcare. Ari explores why he is so passionate about nutrition, the origins and mission behind starting Elo Health, and the challenges he's faced in building Elo Health and Luminary Vitamins. He also delves into his per…
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5 Ways You Can Tell When You Are Being Ripped Off! ...And What To Do About It!
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26:08Quote of the Episode "If something feels off, it probably is. Trust your instincts and push for clarity—because informed customers are empowered customers." Episode Summary In this episode of The Intuitive Customer, Colin Shaw and Professor Ryan Hamilton discuss the all-too-common experience of feeling ripped off. Drawing on Colin’s personal experi…
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The Missing Layer in E-commerce Retention: Phone Sales with Consio's Philippe Roireau
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25:02Join host Pat Ahern in this interview with Philippe Roireau, the co-founder of Consio. Philippe shares his expertise in using phone sales to boost e-commerce retention and engagement. He offers insights on best practices for launching a phone channel for ecommerce, the hidden benefits of calling past customers, when to make phone calls to potential…
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Discover the key insight from 2024 and a plan for how to progress in 2025!
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22:22Episode Summary: In this special end-of-year episode, Colin Shaw and Professor Ryan Hamilton reflect on 2024, sharing personal and professional lessons learned throughout the year. The conversation dives into themes of resilience in both life and customer experience, the vital role of community, the need for balance, and the hype surrounding AI. Ke…
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Here is How to Get Your Organization to Be More Customer-Centric
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33:08We are frustrated. Despite years of effort across industries, customer satisfaction has only seen marginal improvement since the 1990s. By marginal improvement, we mean it went up four points. That’s right, four. This stagnation suggests a need for deeper cultural and operational changes to prioritize customer experiences truly. Our discussion in t…
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Ep. 241: Abhii Parakh & Mike Estep | Flawless Over Flashy: Prudential's Unconventional Path to Customer Experience Leadership
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38:49Episode 241: When is mastering the basics a differentiator? In an industry where complexity is the norm, Prudential Group Insurance has made a counterintuitive strategic choice. While many companies chase innovation through digital transformation and enhanced features, Prudential has discovered that operational excellence—the "absence of noise"—can…
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Google Ads Mastery: Transform Your Campaigns with Dan Wood from Break Digital
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24:38In this episode, Dan Wood, the founder of Break Digital, shares his expertise in Google Ads. He explores effective strategies for optimizing Google Ads campaigns, offering valuable insights on common pitfalls and best practices. You’ll gain practical tips for setting up conversion tracking, choosing the right keywords, targeting your audience, and …
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How to Avoid Conflict Between Your Customer Segments to Gain Growth
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41:00Growth is essential for businesses. However, new customers with varying needs, preferences, and identities often accompany growth. Worse, these new customers can annoy or alienate your current customers. So, how do you grow without making your current business blow? Today, we explore the central challenge of growth: expanding your customer base wit…
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Chase Johnson on the Power of Video Content in Growing Your Brand
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29:57In this episode, Chase Johnson, the founder of Bloom Creativ, shares his expertise in video production. He explores the key differences between professional and DIY video content, offering valuable insights on the pros and cons of each. You’ll gain practical tips for creating captivating videos, crafting compelling stories, selecting the right tale…
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When Is The Right Time To Implement A Customer Loyalty Scheme?
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35:55Deborah has a pickle. She is considering implementing a Loyalty Scheme but isn't sure when and how to do so. She thought we could help. We can help. The first question, then, is easy. Now. These things work. They don't create real loyalty, but they get people to keep buying from you, giving you more chances to earn loyalty. It's the second question…
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From Concept to Coverage: Mickie Kennedy’s Guide to Effective Press Releases
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32:47Join us for an enlightening session with Mickie Kennedy, President and Founder of eReleases. In this episode, Mickie shares his expertise on the importance of press releases for businesses, how to craft a compelling story that captures national media attention, and practical tips for leveraging press releases to build credibility and grow your bran…
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Why Do Customers Tell Me One Thing But Give Me Feedback That Is Different?
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25:48Why do customers tell you everything is fine when you ask them face-to-face but then give you a less-than-optimal rating later in a survey? Is everyone duplicitous, or are customers stricken with experience amnesia as soon as they make it to the car park? It turns out that it is neither a character flaw nor a medical condition that causes it. We ex…
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Why Government Regulation of Some Aspects of a Customer’s Experience is a Good Thing
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28:08Let's talk about government and Customer Experience. It might surprise you that government and Customer Experience have a tighter relationship than you think. Many organizations, particularly in the private sector, recognize the importance of providing great experiences to keep customers satisfied and loyal. But should governments do the same for t…
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Pivoting Your Ecommerce Business with Jon Mason, founder of SwingJuice
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22:38Join us today for an exclusive interview with Jon Mason, the Creative Director and Founder of SwingJuice. In this insightful conversation, Jon shares his remarkable journey from running an energy drink business that reached 300 stores to launching a thriving golf apparel brand. Discover the pivotal moments that inspired his transition, how he smoot…
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Are We Reaching a Turning Point in the AI Hype Cycle?
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26:50Taking unproven routes can lead to exciting new possibilities. However, it could also lead to potential failure. That's what makes life interesting, isn't it? Optimistic thinking has led to groundbreaking achievements, like the moon landing in the 1960s. However, it's important to strike a balance between hope and realism. In today's episode, we ex…
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How Acting on Case Studies Can Irrevocably Damage Your Career
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27:36Over the course of three years, Maersk Line improved its Net Promoter Score (NPS) by an impressive 40 points, resulting in a 10% increase in shipping volumes. Even more remarkable, this growth occurred during a global shipping decline. But can other companies replicate Maersk’s success? Or are case studies like this more cautionary tales than roadm…
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SEO Shorts: Customer Acquisition Content
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18:54Today, we're taking a break from interviewing other experts to bring you our next episode of SEO Shorts — the segment where we explain complex SEO concepts in layman's terms. We often see brands wasting money creating content that doesn't align with their business goals. With this episode, we're discussing the only three types of content that busin…
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The Three Most Exciting Pieces of Research That No One Knows About!
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34:53If there is one thing that academics know how to do, it’s publish new research. It seems that umpteen studies are published every hour. It can be overwhelming to keep up with it all. So, we undertook it to help you with this week’s episode. We explore three fascinating studies in the realm of consumer behavior with insights from Dr. Morgan Ward, a …
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Ep. 240: Caroline Lombardi | The Evolution of the Chief Customer Officer: From Scorekeeper to CEO Successor
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24:35Episode 240: How has the Chief Customer Officer (CCO) role evolved over time? Traditionally focused on tracking metrics, CCOs now play a proactive and forward-facing role in driving business innovation. In this episode, Caroline Lombardi, Global Head of the Hospitality & Leisure Practice at Egon Zehnder, explores the CCO role’s dramatic evolution. …
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ICPs and Go-to-Market Strategies with Melissa Hollis of Taylor Street Collective
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33:13Join us today for an interview with Melissa Hollis, Co-Founder and CEO of Taylor Street Collective. Melissa delves into the critical aspects of defining ICPs, and buyer personas, and building effective go-to-market strategies for startups and solo marketing teams. She discusses the fundamentals of persona development, the importance of knowing your…
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The Powerful Influence Superstition Plays in Customer Decision-Making
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26:47Colin doesn’t sit in aisle 13 when he flies on an airline. It’s silly but true. He also fancies his red knickers on days when he is speaking in front of large crowds. While this errs on the side of too much information, it also foretells the topic of this week’s episode: superstitions and how they influence our decisions as customers and otherwise.…
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My House Was Recently Flooded! This Taught Me How to Treat Customers in Distress
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35:47Hurricane Debbie dumped 17 inches of water in Colin's home. It was a traumatic experience, from wading through the murky water to the neighbor’s house—hoping not to encounter the alligators that usually hang out nearby—to watching a team of 12 recovery professionals sweeping through and gutting what remained inside after the water subsided. The exp…
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Ep. 239: Dan McCarthy | Food for Thought: How External Data Analysis Can Unlock Competitive Insights
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29:17Episode 239: What hidden insights can customer behavior data analysis reveal about how successful one food delivery app may be over another? Discover how analysis of externally sourced customer behavior data can fuel dramatic improvements in revenue forecasts and strategic decisions. See how competitor data analysis can help identify strengths and …
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Building + Elevating Your Brand Identity with Jordan Obinger, Creative Director at Edition Studios
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35:12Join us today for an interview with Jordan Obinger, Creative Director and Founder at Edition Studios. Jordan delves into the critical aspects of building and elevating brand identity for businesses. He discusses the fundamentals of brand creation, the importance of visual identity, and effective ways to differentiate your brand in competitive marke…
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Discover The Secret of How to Gain Actionable Customer Insights
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34:22Customer feedback is critical to managing and improving your customer experience but it isn’t easy to get. Worse, it isn’t always useful and enlightening on what you are doing well, or perhaps more importantly, not so well. In this episode, we tackle a common problem many businesses face: how to get more actionable customer feedback. Our guest, Tim…
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Great Tips on How to Run a Successful Workshop and Motivate Your Audience
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34:18One of the benefits of being in business and academia for years is that we have a lot of experience running workshops. This episode is a brain dump of all the stuff you won’t learn in a book but is critical to the successful outcome of your program. The first and perhaps most critical step is breaking the ice. By setting a relaxed and open tone, yo…
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Elevating Customer Service for Ecommerce: A Deep Dive with Alex Holmes from Influx
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21:38Join us today for an interview with Alex Holmes, Chief Growth Officer at Influx. Alex delves into the critical aspects of building and scaling a customer experience (CX) strategy for ecommerce businesses. He discusses the importance of early CX planning, essential metrics for measuring success, and the role of both AI tools and human management in …
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Managing Rising Customer Expectations With Limited Resources
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27:45Claire Dunwood has a pickle. She wants to know how to manage rising customer expectations with fewer resources than she used to have. This episode seeks to help her—and you—do exactly that. It’s pretty common to hear problems like this today. Responding to rising expectations is easy when there is no limit to the resources you can throw at it. Doin…
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How Ecommerce Brands Can Scale Through Limited Release Product Launches with Audrey Fairbrother, Content Marketing Manager at EQL
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28:05In this episode of Customer Growth Sessions, we welcome Audrey Fairbrother, the Content Marketing Manager at EQL, to speak about limited product launches. Audrey shares her expertise on the concept and execution of limited product launches, providing insightful strategies for both established and emerging brands. Connect with Audrey Fairbrother on …
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Personalization is a developing area in Customer Experiences. With AI driving what could be possible, many of you might be wondering how you can best leverage its capability in yours. To that end, we invited our special guest, Graham Hill, Ph.D., to explore the rapidly evolving field of Personalization in Customer Experiences. With decades of exper…
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Why People Make So Many Crazy Excuses and What This Means for You
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28:27Fair Warning: this episode regarding excuses was prompted by recent experiences with tradespeople during Colin’s kitchen renovation. No one likes excuses, least of all your customers. Lately, Colin has been hearing many amazing excuses about why something can or cannot be done in his kitchen project. It got him thinking about excuses and why people…
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How to Launch an Influencer Marketing Program from Scratch with Yash Chavan, Founder of SARAL
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40:50In this episode of Customer Growth Sessions, Pat chats with Yash Chavan, CEO and founder of SARAL, about building effective influencer marketing campaigns. Yash outlines a six-step framework, covering everything from finding the right influencers to creating compelling offers and nurturing long-term relationships. Tune in for essential tips whether…
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Is Marketing Ethical? A Deep Dive into Scarcity Tactics and Ethics
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33:17In this episode, we tackle a thought-provoking question from one of our listeners: Is it ethical to use urgency as a marketing tactic? This question sparked a deep conversation about the ethics of digital marketing, particularly the use of scarcity to drive sales. We feature insights from Daniel Bisett, partner and CXO at WeRock DM, and Marketing P…
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