We live in a social/political climate that thrives on making us divided. Changing that will require proximity and relationships, but the most inclusive spaces are often aesthetically uninviting and falling apart. This show wants to change that! Join Rev. Sarah Heath and Josephine Jael Jimenez as they share their dream of moving us from a DIY to a DIT (do it together). Each week they chat with an expert about making space—aesthetically, theologically, socially, etc. This is a show where no ch ...
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60. Dr. Robyn Henderson-Espinoza & Rev. Anna Golladay on Making Space for Liberation in Your Theology
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Content Warning: You may feel your own trauma activated by some of the content of this episode. It discusses prejudice, gentrification, exclusion, and immigration so please listen with awareness. Listener discretion is advised. Many communities create a dualistic environment where one is focused on either action or belief. Put another way: Some fol…
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59. Nathanial Totten Green on Making Space Through Graphic Design
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Content Warning: You may feel your own trauma activated by some of the content of this episode. It discusses non-affirming schools and churches, gentrification and exclusion, so please listen with awareness. Listener discretion is advised. More and more than ever before, our “first impressions” are happening online. This is true for dating, but als…
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58. Dr. Brad Onishi on Making Space for Critical Thinking
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This week, we are joined by fellow Irreverent podcaster, Dr. Brad Onishi. Brad is the co-host of the widely beloved (and sometimes hated) podcast Straight White American Jesus. They tackle all things Evangelicalism and it's ties to right-wing Christian nationalism. In this episode, we talk about Orange County, where the three of us have lived at so…
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57.5. Making Spaces on Making Space for Announcements
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Friends, we have something to tell you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesAv Sarah Heath & Josephine Jael Jimenez
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57. Stephanie Tait on Making Space for Every Season
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Content Warning: You may feel your own trauma activated by some of the content of this episode. It discusses trauma, chronic pain, disability and deaths related to Covid 19, so please listen with awareness. Listener discretion is advised. Making spaces, like a flower garden, that serve no “purpose” other than beauty teaches us that worth is not pre…
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56. Rebecca Ching on Making Unburdened Spaces
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Content Warning: You may feel your own trauma activated by some of the content of this episode. It discusses trauma, suicide, and gender roles so please listen with awareness. Listener discretion is advised. In some capacity, we are all leaders and, whether we recognize it or not, we have impact on the spaces in which we exist. This week’s Space Ma…
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55. The Dirty Rotten Church Kids on Making Space to Laugh
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Content Warning: You may feel your own trauma activated by some of the content of this episode. It discusses childhood trauma, faith transitions, and difficult family relationships so please listen with awareness. Listener discretion is advised. Throughout history, people have used humor to make space to discuss the things that culture has deemed t…
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54. Chris Rodriguez on Making Space for Ourselves
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Content Warning: You may feel your own trauma activated by some of the content of this episode. It discusses childhood trauma, faith transitions, and racial discrimination so please listen with awareness. Listener discretion is advised. Write up This week, we had another incredible conversation with Space Maker, Chris Rodgriguez. As you may remembe…
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53. Blake Chastain on Making Space for Exvangelicals
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Making Space for our own spiritual journey often takes us down a path of leaving our familiar religious community and that can leave one feeling disoriented and alone. This week’s Space Maker is Blake Chastain, someone who has spent the last five years connecting people who have the shared story of experiencing a faith shift. Blake is the host of t…
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52. Crystal Steckel & John Keeling on Making Space for Change
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Content Warning: You may feel your own trauma activated by some of the content of this episode. It discusses suicide, and head trauma, so please listen with awareness. Listener discretion is advised. One of the unique features of the human species is the desire to live a ”meaningful, purpose driven life.” From master classes to bumper stickers, eve…
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51. Rev. Dr. Rudy Rasmus on Making Space for the People in Front of You
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Content Warning: You may feel your own trauma activated by some of the content of this episode. It discusses suicide and addiction, so please listen with awareness. Listener discretion is advised. It’s hard to imagine that you could feel alone when Beyoncé is amongst your friends, when you’ve created programs and systems that have housed and cared …
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50. Mum and Ama on Making Space: The Mother's Day Episode
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Happy Mother's Day! Listen to our conversations with our mothers, where we ask them all about making space, both literally and figuratively. First up is Christine Heath and then it's Josie's bilingual conversation with her mom, Susana Jimenez. Head to our website for all things Making Spaces: www.makingspacespodcast.com For Making Spaces Merch www.…
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49. Mason Mennenga on Making Space for People in Theology and Worship
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When we enter into any space, the question we all ask is, “Do I belong here?” This week’s Space Maker, Mason Mennenga, spent years participating in a church community that invited everyone to belong through participation. From infant to scholar, everyone has something to offer and their worship service provided the space for all forms of participat…
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48. Jackie Gronlund on Making Space for the Journey Home
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Content Warning: You may feel your own trauma activated by some of the content of this episode. It discusses eating disorders, body image disorders, and mental illness, so please listen with awareness. Listener discretion is advised. This week’s Space Maker Jackie Gronlund has been on a lifelong journey to find a space to label “ home.” During our …
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47. Natalie Reed on Making Space for Health At All Sizes
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Content Warning: You may feel your own trauma activated by some of the content of this episode. It discusses eating disorders, so please listen with awareness. Listener discretion is advised. On this week's episode, we dive in deep to all things body positivity and food with Registered Dietitian, Natalie Reed! In a culture where only certain bodies…
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46. Spencer Rose Taylor on Making Space to Speak In Church
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This week, we are joined by Space Maker, Spencer Rose Taylor! Spencer is a podcaster over at the Speaking in Church podcast, co-hosted by our very own Josie. Her passion for making space for others comes from her call to ministry and the barriers she’s faced in that call because of her gender. The Speaking in Church podcast is all about Christianit…
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45. Savannah Carreno on Making Space for Big Questions
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This week’s space maker is Savannah Rae Carreno. Savannah is the creator and primary writer for “The Juice Edit” website, and hosts the incredible conversation based “Please Elaborate” ministry. She makes space both online and in person by inviting people to ask hard questions and explore educated perspectives on every topic leaving nothing out as …
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44. Halleemah Nash on Making Space to Create What Your Younger Self Needed
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This week’s space maker is Halleemah Nash. Halleemah is a proud product of Compton, California – a city that has greatly shaped her ambition, values, and interest in reaching back as she climbs. She is a first-generation college graduate who holds a Bachelor of Arts in Business Administration from Howard University, and a Master of Divinity from Du…
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43. Peter Lublink on Making Space for Empowering International Aid
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This week’s space maker, Peter Lublink, is the executive director of the non profit organization, BethanyKids. The organization helps train surgeons, and makes it fiscally possible for them to serve their own communities in 7 different African countries. The program also helps fund pediatric care for children in those areas. This conversation went …
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42. Brenda Marie Davies on Making Space to Be Inquisitive, Fearless, Sex-Positive Christians
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Often Making Space requires us to step out of the communities and the mindsets we previously held closely. After taking that step out it can be surprising when we discover that wholeness and integration require us to make peace with the places we once had to reject and to share new perspectives and experiences with both our old and new communities.…
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41. Season Three Opener with Kevin Garcia
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Season Three of Making Spaces had to begin with one of our favorite space makers... Kevin Garcia. Kevin is a Spiritual Director and Intuitive Life Coach. Through his work as a digital pastor and public theologian, Kevin has used their writing, podcast, and YouTube Channel to help foster communities of authentic spiritual seeking, helping people pul…
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40. The One About the Healing Power of Art with Lanecia Rouse Tinsley
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39. The One About Being Original with Recording Artist i.V KiNG
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38. The One Where Dr. Tripp Fuller Explains the Connection Between Good Theology and Beer
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37. The Christmas One With Cathie Capp: Pregnant teen, Princeton Grad, and Empathic Pastor
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36. The One Where Dan Davidson Takes the Next Logical Steps
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35. The One Where Laura Foster Teaches Us How to Become Human Beings
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34. The One with Space Maker, Engineer, Shoe Designer, and General Bad Ass Ana Kraft
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33. The One with Revolutionary Children's Book Author Matthew Paul Turner
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32. The One with Renaissance Creative Steven Homestead
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31. The One Where Chris Rodriguez Explains the Language of Movement
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This week we share our incredible conversation with Pastor/Musician/Dancer/Embodiment Coach Chris Rodriguez. Chris challenges us to think about movement as an actual language. Chris asserts that when we make space for that language we start to live from a soulful place that helps us make space for ourselves and others. This is one of our favorite c…
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30. The One Where Artist Scott Erickson Makes Space for Wonder.
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Sometimes we have to make space for wonder, but how do you do that with things that are familiar? This week we talk to visual artist/spiritual director Scott Erickson about how to make space for wonder even during seasons you don’t enjoy. The conversation goes everywhere from why people don’t remember long sermons, but they will remember what the s…
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29. The One Where Rob and Rob Explain our Common Threads
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Is it possible to use research to make space for people? A couple of years ago Pastor Rob Rynders set out to answer that question and ended up creating Social Thread a group for people who are looking for community. Social Thread seeks to help people belong and thrive as they explore their faith on their own terms. This week we talk to Rob and his …
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28. The One Where Sarah Begins Her Airstream Dream
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A brief announcement as Sarah begins her Airstream Dream with an epic road trip. To get in touch with us follow us www.instagram.com/revsarahheath and www.instagram.com/josietakestheworld Email us at- makingspacespodcast@gmail.com Youtube.com/revsarahheath The podcast audio is edited by Steven Burnett from “The Cult Popcast” We NEED your HELP- Plea…
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27. The One Where Rev. Mandy McDow Makes Space for the Things That Are Not Negotiable
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What if churches were serious about not having walls? This week we talk to Rev. Mandy McDow the lead pastor of First United Methodist of Las Angeles a completely outdoor church. We often talk about churches without walls, well this church literally has no walls. This conversation deals with the reality that no space is static and making space often…
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26. The One Where Carly Bell Helps Us Reimagine and Redefine Success in Business
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This week we talk to the absolutely innovative Carly Bell of Whole Co. Media about her approach to helping entrepreneurs find their own versions of success. She tells us all about her “magic sauce” and how it all revolves around authenticity and knowing all of your strengths by name. If you need a little empowerment, this is the episode for you. Yo…
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25. The One Where Trent Thompson Shares Why Art Is More Than Work Made by Poor People for Rich People.
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This week's Space Maker is artist Trent Thompson. In a world where it can feel like art is all about self-promotion, Trent is all about helping others. In this episode, we talk about the passions behind his people based projects and how Trent is making art accessible and available for all people through the transformation of physical and societal s…
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24. The One Where Florist Billiann Dunn Shares Why the Wedding Industry Doesn’t Always Smell Like Roses..
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In the world of business, it’s hard to know what rules to follow. In this episode, we talk to Billiann, a professional florist about the spaces she’s carving out for entrepreneurs like her and how she is learning to redefine the rules. She tells us all about why she runs her business differently than the norm, how she creates stunning floral displa…
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23. The One Where Arielle Estoria Shares Why Our Body Should Be the First Space We Think About
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When we have so many passions sometimes it’s hard to figure out our space in the world. This conversation with Arielle Estoria talks about how sometimes the way we make our own space isn’t intentional, but it can still open up spaces for others. The conversation covers things like dollar margaritas, getting kicked out of the Huntington Library, bei…
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22. The One Where Kevin Garcia Returns
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To kick off our new season we invited back the always insightful, Kevin Garcia. Kevin is a digital pastor and spiritual life coach who makes space for people to find a home within themselves. This conversation goes everywhere from why people are rushing to get the church doors open, even in the midst of a pandemic, to how you can find home in your …
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21. The One Where the World Meets Space Maker Josie Jimenez and Finds Out Why Camping is So Dangerous.
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New season, new cohost, new theme song, same "space making." This Season kicks off with a get to know you conversation with our new cohost Josie Jimenez. The conversation goes from her overwhelming fear that isolated camping will lead to her being found murdered to why making spaces for other people has been the driving force in a lot of her creati…
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Thank you for all your support for Season One!!! We are working on Season Two, but in the mean time here is an announcement! Make sure you go check out the youtube content available at www.youtube.com/revsarahheath The background music is: "It Can be Done"- by Airae available via Epidemic Sound --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/makings…
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20. The One Where Sarah talks with Colby Martin about Shifting Beliefs
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What do we do when making space for ourselves and others creates a massive shift in our belief system? How can we hold onto our belonging and identity when everything feels like it has shifted? I am grateful to Colby Martin the author of “the Shift” and for this conversation about shifting in your beliefs, and finding hope in helping others in the …
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19. The One Where Sarah Talks To HerDesk Creator Dana Bakich About Creating What You Need Most.
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I don’t know about you, but I think we all have those friends who make us believe the things we thought were out of reach or impossible are completely attainable, Dana Bakich is one of those people for me. Maybe it's because I have watched the musical Hamilton every day since it came out, but I think the world needs more people like Dana. People wh…
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18. The One Where Sarah Talks to Musician Drew Brown About being a Peace Maker
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Friends today on the podcast I am delighted to share with you my friend Drew Brow. Drew is an artist, advocate, pastor, poet, songwriter storyteller. As a musician he has played everywhere from large festival stages, churches, concert halls, pubs, and holding house concerts across the country. Drew lives just outside of Toronto, Canada, and engages…
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16. The One Where Sarah talks to Dave Harder and Bryce Dymond about Shifting Churches to Community Spaces
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There is no denying that 2020 has been the year of disruption- some much needed disruption. As systems of privilege are being called out through the work of Black Lives Matter and Covid 19 is teaching us that our health is tied to each other we are rethinking what community looks like and what leadership in that reality looking like. Something new …
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17. The One Where Sarah Talks to Urban Planner Jenna Tourjé about Making Spaces with People not just for People
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Today I am excited to introduce to you my friend Jenna Tourjé. Jenna is an urban planner, facilitator, and community builder. She walks with communities on the path to making healthy, whole, and equitable places. Her goal is to make spaces where everyone belongs, and is involved in shaping the future of their own neighborhoods. She facilitates conv…
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15. The One Where Sarah Talks to Pete Enns and Jared Byas about Making Space for Differing Opinions
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We live in a time that is very polarized and differing opinions seem to be suspect. We need to figure out a way forward, but it seems hard to do if we can't even have a conversation, and we debate only happens from behind computer screens. There are people trying to create spaces where differing opinions are not only welcome, but encouraged, and me…
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14. The One Where Sarah Talks to Poet/ Musician/Artist Morgan Harper Nichols About Creating Space for One Story at a Time
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Friends, you may already know the work of this week's "Making Spaces Podcast" guest Morgan Harper Nichols. Her well known instagram poetry/visual art is signed with the simple letters MHN. Morgan is an incredibly talented creative. She is a poet, a musician, and a visual artist. Each piece is based on the personal stories her followers send her and…
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