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I Choose Joy: AJ Romriell on Wolves, Loving Yourself, and Exiting the Mormon Faith 48:54

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In this edition of Madison Book Beat, host Andrew Thomas speaks with AJ Romriell on his debut memoir Wolf Act (University of Wisconsin Press, 2025). Wolf Act is a “memoir in essays,” and these essays take on a variety of forms. The work is divided into three different Acts, and each act is made up of chapters that are both interlinked but can also stand on their own as well. While the majority of the prose is narrative nonfiction, there are a number of chapters that include lengthy lists, definition entries like you would find in a dictionary, as well as passages that mirror a kind of Mormon liturgy and educational upbringing. As the title suggests, wolves are a central metaphor throughout the work, and Romriell seamlessly weaves in references to wolves from mythology, fables, fairy tales, and religious beliefs as a way of processing his exit from the Mormon faith and his intentional turn towards self-love and joy. AJ Romriell is a storyteller, photographer, and educator. His memoir Wolf Act is about his experience growing up queer and neurodivergent in the Mormon religion; it earned first prize in the Utah Original Writing Competition and was a finalist for the Writers’ League of Texas Manuscript Contest. He is a 2025 Pushcart nominee, and his essays, stories, and poems have been featured in Electric Literature, The Missouri Review, Michigan Quarterly Review, Black Warrior Review, Brevity, New Delta Review, and elsewhere. He has been the recipient of the Vandewater Prize in Poetry, the Kenneth W. Brewer Creative Writing Award, and the Ralph Jennings Smith Creative Writing Endowment, and his work has been shortlisted for Ploughshares’ Emerging Writer’s Contest, CRAFT’s Hybrid Writing Contest, and the Black Warrior Review and New Ohio Review contests for creative nonfiction.…

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New Wisconsin Poet Laureate Brenda Cárdenas on the mysteries and rewards of language 51:23

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On this edition of Madison BookBeat, host Sara Batkie chats with Wisconsin Poet Laureate Brenda Cárdenas about her new position and the exciting plans she has in the works during her service. Brenda Cárdenas was born and raised in Milwaukee and has also lived in Beaver Dam, Appleton, Menasha, and Fond du Lac. She obtained her undergraduate degree at the University of Wisconsin–Milwaukee, and a Masters of Fine Arts (MFA) degree in Creative Writing (Poetry) at the University of Michigan. She recently retired from a 35-year career teaching Creative Writing to students at every level from seventh graders to doctoral candidates. From 2007 to 2024 she taught Creative Writing and U. S. Latino/x Literatures at the University of Wisconsin–Milwaukee. A former City of Milwaukee poet laureate, Cárdenas has authored two full-length books: Trace (Red Hen Press) and Boomerang (Bilingual Press). She has also authored or co-authored three chapbooks: Bread of the Earth/The Last Colors , Achiote Seeds/Semillas de Achiote , and From the Tongues of Brick and Stone . Her three-year term as Wisconsin Poet Laureate began on January 15, 2025 and runs through December 31, 2027. Brenda will be doing many events and workshops throughout the state during her Poet Laureate term. You can see a full list by visiting her website here .…

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Sitting down with Madison Public Libraries Director Tana Elias 52:50

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Tana Elias has more than three decades of experience at the Madison Public Library. After one year in the role, she’s “just settling in” to the position as Director of the MPL. Elias sits down with Madison Book Beat host David Ahrens for a conversation about the history, funding, services and evolution of the Madison Public Library system, which has nine libraries in the city, operates the mobile Dreambus service, and is now building an “Imagination Center” on the north side. Elias and Ahrens also take up the changing role of libraries in the digital age. Contrary to the notion of a library dealing in books only, today’s Madison Public Libraries function as a community hub and resource — giving everything from seeds to art to yes, digital and physical books to the community. They also discuss the threat of losing federal funding, and the significant milestone for MPL coming up this year: 150 years of service.…

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Christine Wenc on the founding of "The Onion" 51:38

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On this edition of Madison BookBeat, host Sara Batkie chats with author Christine Wenc about her new book Funny Because It’s True: How The Onion Created Modern American News Satire . In 1988, a band of University of Wisconsin–Madison undergrads and dropouts began publishing a free weekly newspaper with no editorial stance other than “You Are Dumb.” Just wanting to make a few bucks, they wound up becoming the bedrock of modern satire over the course of twenty years, changing the way we consume both our comedy and our news. The Onion served as a hilarious and brutally perceptive satire of the absurdity and horrors of late twentieth-century American life and grew into a global phenomenon. Now, for the first time, the full history of the publication is told by one of its original staffers, author and historian Christine Wenc. Through dozens of interviews, Wenc charts The Onion’s rise, its position as one of the first online humor sites, and the way it influenced television programs like The Daily Show and The Colbert Report. Funny Because It’s True reveals how a group of young misfits from flyover country unintentionally created a cultural phenomenon. Christine Wenc was a member of The Onion’s original staff from 1988 to 1990 as a UW–Madison undergrad. She has played central roles in highly regarded public history projects for Harvard University Libraries, Brigham and Women’s Hospital, and the National Library of Medicine, and has received writing grants from the Awesome Foundation and the National Endowment for the Humanities. She is also trained in midwestern prairie ecosystem restoration and likes to spend time helping to revitalize one of the rarest, most diverse, most beautiful, and most ecologically beneficial landscapes on the planet. She grew up in rural Spring Green, Wisconsin.…

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On Jumping, Swimming, Sinking, and Floating: Poet Steven Duong Discusses His Debut Collection 54:31

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In this edition of Madison Book Beat, host Andrew Thomas speaks with Steven Duong on his debut poetry collection At the End of the World There is A Pond (Norton 2025). "Tell all the truth but tell it slant." Taking Emily Dickinson's dictum as a guiding principle, poet Steven Duong delivers a collection startlingly clear, formally innovative, and consistently funny. At the End of the World There is a Pond is divided into four sections–The Jumpers, The Swimmers, The Sinkers, The Floaters--and throughout each Duong explores themes of addiction, mental health, climate change, diaspora, and popular culture. from "Anatomy": “there’s no / point in writing nature poems anymore, / not unless you drown the verses in smoke / & oil & organophosphates–the Anthropocene / demands a new syntax” Steven Duong is a writer from San Diego. His poems have appeared in the American Poetry Review, Guernica, and the Yale Review, among other publications, and his short fiction is featured in Catapult, The Drift, and The Best American Short Stories 2024.The recipient of fellowships and awards from the Academy of American Poets and the Iowa Writers’ Workshop, he is currently a creative writing fellow in poetry at Emory University. He lives in Atlanta, Georgia.…

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Theresa Okokon on her memoir in essays "Who I Always Was" 51:45

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On this edition of Madison BookBeat, host Sara Batkie chats with author Theresa Okokon about her debut memoir in essays, Who I Always Was . When Theresa Okokon was nine, her father traveled to his hometown in Nigeria to attend his mother’s funeral…and never returned. His mysterious death shattered Theresa as her family’s world unraveled. Now a storyteller and television cohost, Okokon sets out to explore the ripple effects of that profound loss and the way heartache shapes our sense of self and of the world—for the rest of our lives. Using her grief and her father’s death as a backdrop, Okokon delves deeply into intrinsic themes of Blackness, African spirituality, family, abandonment, belonging, and the seemingly endless, unrequited romantic pursuits of a Black woman who came of age as a Black girl in Wisconsin suburbs where she was—in many ways—always an anomaly. Theresa Okokon is a Pushcart Prize-nominated essayist. A Wisconsinite living in New England, she is a writer, a storyteller, and the cohost of Stories from the Stage . In addition to writing and performing her own stories, Theresa also teaches storytelling and writing workshops and classes, coaches other tellers, hosts story slams, and frequently emcees events for nonprofits. She is an alum of both the Memoir Incubator and Essay Incubator programs at GrubStreet.…

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What Books Did You Like This Year? 53:03

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As 2024 draws to a close, David Ahrens reflects on his bountiful year of reading. He's joined by Chali Pittman, Andrew Thomas, and callers throughout the hour to share their recommendations. New York Times bestseller James by Percival Everett is a clear favorite. It's a re-imagining of Huckleberry Finn from a distinctly different point of view. That's not the only retelling worth reading — Demon Copperhead by Barbara Kingsolver reimagines David Copperfield as well. Also recommended by David: The Lucky Ones , a memoir by Madison's own Sara Chowdhary, recounts a personal experience of anti-Muslim violence in India (Chowdhary was just interviewed by Madison BookBeat). Meanwhile, caller Gil recommends Shadows at Noon: The South Asian Twentieth Century by Joya Chatterji, recently interviewed on World View. David recommends a slate of books by Irish authors, including Prophet Song by Paul Lynch, The Bee Sting by Paul Murray, and Long Island by Colm Tóibín. Plus, the beautifully-written Say Nothing by Patrick Radden Keefe —which has now been turned into a TV series. As for nonfiction, Chali recommends Sing Like Fish: How Sound Rules Life Under Water by Amorina Kingdon. In the political sphere, Ringmaster: Vince McMahon and the Unmaking of America by Josephine Riesman gives insight into the rise of Donald Trump. And Doppelganger: A Trip Into the Mirror World by Naomi Klein begs not to be confused with Naomi Wolf. David recommends Reds: The Tragedy of American Communism by Maurice Isserman and Andrew recommends At the Vanguard of Vinyl by Darren Miller In more fiction, Gil recommends Northwoods by Daniel Mason , Jade recommends Wandering Stars by Tommy Orange, and David recommends Intermezzo by Sally Rooney.…

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Zara Chowdhary on The Lucky Ones 53:51

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Zara Chowdhary sits down with David Ahrens to talk about her exquisite memoir The Lucky Ones (Penguin, 2024). In 2002, Zara Chowdhary was sixteen years old and living with her family in Ahmedabad, India, when a train fire claimed the lives of sixty Hindu passengers — and upended the lives of millions of Muslims. Instead of taking her school exams that week, Zara is put under a three-month siege, with her family and thousands of others fearing for their lives as Hindu neighbors and friends transform overnight into bloodthirsty mobs, hunting and massacring their fellow citizens. The chief minister of the state at the time, Narendra Modi, was later accused of fomenting the massacre. Now, he is India’s prime minister. Chowdhary’s The Lucky Ones entwines lost histories across a subcontinent, as it prods open a family’s secrets, and gazes unflinchingly back at a country rushing to move past the biggest pogrom in its modern history. Somehow, it also reflects the joy of two young sisters living their lives by resisting the bleakness of their home life and the dangerous world outside. It is a warning to the world by a young survivor, to democracies and to homes that won’t listen to their daughters. It is an ode to the rebellion of a young woman who insists she will belong to her land, family, and faith on her own terms. About the guest: Zara Chowdhary is a writer and lecturer at UW-Madison. She has an MFA in creative writing and environment from Iowa State University and a master’s in writing for performance from the University of Leeds. She has previously written for documentary television, advertising, and film. You can find more at zarachowdhary.com or follow her on Instagram @zarachowdhary .…

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The Year in Books with Three Madison Booksellers 53:56

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On this edition of Madison BookBeat, host Sara Batkie chats with Madison booksellers Iris Tobin from A Room of One’s Own , Hilary Burg from Mystery to Me , and Molly Fish from Lake City Books to see how their 2024 went. Take a listen to learn about the new releases they loved, event highlights from the past year, reads they recommend for people who want to get back into the habit, and what’s in store for them in 2025. And for those still doing some holiday shopping, stick around until the end to hear their order deadlines and extra hours this December!…

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Imagining Beyond Prisons: On Books-to-Prisons Bans and Abolition Activism 52:20

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In this edition of Madison Book Beat, host Andrew Thomas speaks with folx from LGBT Books to Prisoners and A Room of One's Own bookstore on the Wisconsin Department of Corrections’ recently-implemented restrictions on book donations, the condition of prison libraries, and the current state of abolition activism. “On the whole, people tend to take prisons for granted. It is difficult to imagine life without them,” she continues. “At the same time, there is reluctance to face the realities hidden within them, a fear of thinking about what happens inside them. Thus, the prison is present in our lives and, at the same time, it is absent from our lives.” --Angela Davis, Are Prisons Obsolete? Joining me for a conversation on this topic is Bryan Davis and Nicholas Leete of LGBT Books to Prisoners and Mira Braneck of A Room of One's Own bookstore. LGBT Books to Prisoners was born out of the Wisconsin Books to Prisoners (WI BtP) in 2007. LGBT Books to Prisoners is a prison abolitionist, volunteer-run project which primarily works to send books requested by queer people in prison in the United States. With me today are two volunteers, Nicholas Leete and Bryan Davis. Bryan Davis is a graduate from UW-Madison's School of Human Ecology with a degree in nonprofit management. He first became involved with LGBT Books to Prisoners as a volunteer in 2016 and eventually joined the board of directors. He also worked in the non-profit sector in fundraising, development, and communications for an organization serving children who experience neglect and teens in the foster care system. He currently serves on the Social Justice Center's board of directors located off of Willy Street which manages the building's operations and programming which includes renting space to numerous nonprofits like LGBT Books to Prisoners. Nicholas Leete has been a volunteer with LGBT Books to Prisoners since 2016, and has been a volunteer organizer with the group for the last few years. Additionally, Nicholas is a WORT volunteer and a worker at Rooted, a local food sovereignty non-profit. A Room of One's Own is a local, independent feminist bookstore, in Madison since 1975, currently on Atwood Avenue. They serve as the official bookseller for all books sent out by LGBT Books to Prisoners and also sponsor us through book donations and publicity. Mira Braneck is the receiving manager and books to prisoners programs coordinator at A Room of One's Own. Additional resources: 10/16/24 WORT interview with Tone's Madison's editor in chief Scott Gordon on DOC's updated donation policies 10/14/24 TONE article , "Wisconsin prison officials furtively changed a library book donation policy while dodging questions" by Scott Gordon 9/25/24 TONE article , "Wisconsin escalates its long tradition of prison book-banning" by Scott Gordon and Dan Fitch NB : Since airing, we discovered an inaccuracy in our conversation. Michigan state prisons allow publications purchased from seven internet vendors as well as direct from book publishers. You can read more about this here . Copyright free photo courtesy of Freepik.…

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If You Don’t Deal With Your Past, It’s Still Your Present 52:48

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In this edition of Madison Book Beat, host Lisa Malawski talks with local Madison author Tammy Borden. Tammy is a professional copywriter turned novelist. She has had a whirlwind of a year since releasing her novel, Waltraud. She has reached thousands of readers on 5 continents, had more than 70 speaking or book-related events, and approximately one thousand reviews! Waltraud was self-published by Tammy Borden in 2023. Waltraud is about a true story of Tammy’s mom growing up in Nazi Germany. Tammy grew up hearing her mom’s first-hand accounts of coming of age under Hilter’s regime. Through the years, she secretly recorded these conversations fully intent on writing a book based on her mom’s true story. Tammy’s mom was 12 years old when the war broke out in Germany. Her father was forced to serve in a Nazi army. There was not enough money coming in and they had to live off of rations. A lot of people do not realize that the Nazis oppressed their own people. One story in the book which may come as a surprise to readers is that Waltraud helped to feed English airman hiding in a barn after their plane crashed until the war was over. Tammy spoke at the EAA (Experimental Aircraft Association) where she shared a story where an American pilot fell to his death after shooting down a German fighter plane. Tammy wanted to find out who the pilot was. Tammy went to the US Military archives and searched her mom’s town in Germany which led to one man. Tammy found the man’s niece and they have now connected. Author connects with WWII pilot's family through mother's story - YouTube Tammy initially wrote Waltraud in the third person and then had a revelation that she had to write this book in first person. Waltraud passed away at the age of 93 in 2020. Tammy wishes her mom could have seen the book. She is thankful that her mom was willing to share her stories. So many from Waltraud’s generation hide the horrors of their past inside. A quote from author, Tammy Borden: “If you don’t deal with your past, it’s still your present. You have no idea the healing that your story can bring to someone else.”…

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Author and geologist Marcia Bjornerud on the rocks that made her 47:55

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On this edition of Madison BookBeat, host Sara Batkie speaks with author, geologist, and Lawrence University professor Marcia Bjornerud about her new book, Turning to Stone . Earth has been reinventing itself for more than four billion years, keeping a record of its experiments in the form of rocks. Yet most of us live our lives on the planet with no idea of its extraordinary history, unable to interpret the language of the rocks that surround us. Geologist Marcia Bjornerud believes that our lives can be enriched by understanding our heritage on this old and creative planet. Contrary to their reputation, rocks have eventful lives–and they intersect with our own in surprising ways. In Turning to Stone , Bjornerud reveals how rocks are the hidden infrastructure that keep the planet functioning, from sandstone aquifers purifying the water we drink to basalt formations slowly regulating global climate. Marcia Bjornerud is a structural geologist whose research focuses on the physics of earthquakes and mountain building. She combines field-based studies of bedrock geology with quantitative models of rock mechanics. She has done research in high arctic Norway (Svalbard) and Canada (Ellesmere Island), as well as mainland Norway, Italy, New Zealand, and the Lake Superior region. Her books include Reading the Rocks: The Autobiography of the Earth ; Timefulness: How Thinking Like a Geologist Can Help Save the World and Geopedia: A Brief Compendium of Geologic Curiosities. Timefulness was longlisted for the 2019 PEN/E.O.Wilson Prize for Literary Science Writing, and was a finalist for the LA Times Book Prize in Science and Technology.…

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We Do Not Make Very Good Gods: Nature Critic Boyce Upholt on the Sinuous History of the Mississippi River 53:22

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In his 1979 Whole Earth Catalog, Stewart Brand wrote, “We are as gods, so we might as well get good at it.” Based on his time on the Mississippi River, however, Boyce Upholt concludes “that we do not make very good gods.” In the final pages of The Great River: The Making and Unmaking of the Mississippi , Upholt reflects, “The river is an unappeasable god, and to react to it with fear and awe is not wrong. . . . Perhaps what people learn after thousands of years of living along one of the world’s greatest rivers is that change is inevitable, that chaos will come. That the only way to survive is to take care–of yourself and of everyone else, human and beyond.” Boyce Upholt is a “nature critic” whose writing probes the relationship between humans and the rest of the natural world, especially in the U.S. South. Boyce grew up in the Connecticut suburbs and holds a bachelor’s degree from Haverford College and an MFA from the Program for Writers at Warren Wilson College. His work has been published in the Atlantic, National Geographic, the Oxford American, and Virginia Quarterly Review, among other publications, and was awarded the 2019 James Beard Award for investigative journalism. His stories have been noted in the Best American Science & Nature and Best American Nonrequired Reading series. Boyce lives in New Orleans. Book photo courtesy of Boyce Upholt.…

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Observing Ann Garvin as an Author and a Human Being 48:30

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In this edition of Madison Book Beat, host Lisa Malawski talks with local Madison author Ann Garvin. Ann Garvin became an author at age fifty. Ann Garvin Ph.D. is a nurse, a professor, and USA Today Bestselling Author. She thinks everything is funny and a little bit sad. Ann writes stories about people who do too much in a world that asks too much from them. Ann is the founder of the multiple award-winning Tall Poppy Writers where she is committed to helping women writers succeed. She is a sought-after speaker on writing, leadership and health and has taught extensively in NY, San Francisco, LA, Boston, and at festivals across the country and in Europe. Lisa had Ann on Madison Book Beat in March 2024 for her book There’s No Coming Back from This which was published by Lake Union Publishing in 2024. Ann returned to the Madison Book Beat on 10/28 for her new book, Bummer Camp which was also published by Lake Union Publishing in September 2024. It is difficult to write two fiction novels in one year, and Lisa discusses with Ann the amount of work that goes into accomplishing this. One of the things that Lisa liked most about the previous interview with Ann was that she mentioned that a writer is an observer. Lisa has observed many things about Ann and their discussion takes a deep look at the loss of Ann’s parents, love in Ann’s life and an intense look at Ann’s writing career. Ann teaches in the low-residency Master of Fine Arts program at Drexel University and lives in Wisconsin with her anxious and overly protective dog, Peanut. For more information, visit www.anngarvin.com . Also check out Ann Garvin’s Please Come Sit By Me blog .…

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Bob Wake & Diya Abbas, First-Place Fiction & Poetry Winners 52:16

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Today on the show, incoming host Ella Saph speaks with the first-place winners in the 2024 Wisconsin People & Ideas Writing Contest. Cambridge writer Bob Wake took home the gold for his poem "Mending Ruth," and Madison poet Diya Abbas took home the prize for their poem “Al-Eashiq." Both will present at a reading next week at the Wisconsin Book Festival, which will feature all the winners of the statewide 2024 Fiction & Poetry Contests. That reading is on Tuesday, October 29 at 7pm at Central Library. About the guests: Bob Wake is a writer and small press publisher in Cambridge, Wisconsin. He is the first-place winner of the 2024 Wisconsin People & Ideas Fiction Contest, which he also won in 2017. His short stories have appeared in Madison Magazine , The Madison Review , Rosebud Magazine , and in Wisconsin People & Ideas . He is a recipient of the Zona Gale Award for Short Fiction from the Council for Wisconsin Writers. Diya Abbas is a first-generation Pakistani poet from the Midwest. She is the first-place poetry winner in the 2024 Wisconsin People & Ideas Writing Contest. Her poems are featured or forthcoming in RHINO , Foglifter , Adroit , diode , The Offing , BAHR Magazine , and others. She is currently studying Creative Writing and South Asian Studies at the University of Wisconsin Madison through the First Wave program. Find more of their work at diyabbas.com.…

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