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Inclusive Conversations: How Curiosity Leads to Connection with Dr. Julie Pham - Episode 25
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In this episode of The Inclusive Dad podcast, host AAron interviews Dr. Julie Pham, a Vietnamese refugee and entrepreneur who founded CuriosityBased. Dr. Pham discusses “curiosity-based inclusion,” a concept encouraging open questioning without fear of judgment, and explores how curiosity fosters authentic inclusion, especially in workplaces. The conversation covers navigating cultural differences, managing expectations, and cultivating empathy. Dr. Pham also shares personal insights on respect, curiosity as a practice, and the balance between self-awareness and relationship-building in inclusive environments.
Key Takeaways:
Curiosity-Based Inclusion: Inclusion is fostered by encouraging safe, open questioning in all settings, making space for different perspectives.
Understanding Expectations: Recognize how expectations shape reactions and can either hinder or support inclusive conversations.
Respect Through Flexibility: Respect involves adapting to others' needs and understanding different forms of respect, like punctuality.
Empathy via Experience: Firsthand experiences, such as assisting a friend with a disability, can deepen empathy and enhance inclusivity.
Self-Awareness & Relationships: Inclusive practices begin with self-reflection and sharing in relationships to build mutual understanding.
Dr. Pham’s definition of inclusion:
Inclusion to me means that people feel that they can practice curiosity with other people, and they can also practice curiosity with themselves.
Dr. Pham’s Bio:
Julie Pham, PhD is a Vietnamese- born, American raised refugee, Cambridge-trained social scientist, an award-winning community organizer, an Amazon Bestselling author, and TEDx speaker.
Connect with Dr. Pham:
Website: https://curiositybased.com/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/curiositybased
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/curiositybased/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliepham2/
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