Father and Joe E391: The Challenge of Discipleship: Embracing Love in a World of Power

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Join Joe Rockey and Father Boniface Hicks in this heartfelt and thought-provoking episode of Father and Joe. Together, they explore the complexities of discipleship, the power of love, and the challenges of living a faith-filled life in today’s world. Using the Gospel message from the third week of Advent as a starting point, they reflect on the historical context of Jesus' time and its relevance to our modern struggles, while emphasizing how love remains the most transformative and powerful force.

Joe begins by sharing his personal struggle with excuses and reflects on the Gospel passage where John the Baptist foreshadows Jesus' transformative mission: "I baptize you with water, but He will baptize you with fire and the Holy Spirit." This sparks a deep discussion about what it means to be a disciple, especially during difficult times. Joe asks an important question: "If we were living in Jesus’ time, would it have been easy to be a disciple, or would we have hesitated because of the challenges and sacrifices required?"

Father Boniface delves into the historical context, explaining how the Roman Empire’s oppression and societal challenges might have made Jesus’ message difficult to embrace. He contrasts worldly power with God’s power of love: "The power that God brings is not the power that the world prizes...but the power of sacrificial love." Using examples from Scripture and theology, he explains how Jesus’ approach to love upends the values of worldly power, showing that true victory lies in love, not domination.

The conversation also touches on the challenges of modern discipleship, as Joe reflects on the divided responses to struggles like the COVID pandemic: “Do we quietly accept the circumstances, violently oppose them, or join the side of the oppressors?” Father Boniface emphasizes that, no matter the circumstances, love must remain central. He explains, "Love never runs out. God, who is love, comes not in the form of worldly powers but in the form of sacrificial love."

As Christmas approaches, the episode shifts to an invitation for those who may only attend church twice a year (on Christmas and Easter). Father Boniface encourages listeners to welcome and support others in their journey of faith: "Let them feel like Christ cares that they’re there because you care that they’re there." Whether it’s through a simple connection, a prayer, or a welcoming gesture, discipleship begins with embodying love in everyday actions.

In a world where power, money, and status often feel like the only ways to thrive, this episode of Father and Joe reminds us that love—God’s greatest gift—offers a more fulfilling and eternal path. As Father Boniface puts it, “God rearranges the hierarchy of values to show that love is the most powerful, love is the top, love is victorious.”

If you're seeking inspiration on how to deepen your faith, love others, and embrace discipleship in your own life, this episode offers profound insights and practical encouragement. As the hosts remind us, "The prerequisite of discipleship is love."

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