211. Fire and Suffering, a Quick Conversation with Tod Bolsinger and Markus Watson

Spiritual Life and Leadership

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In this episode, Tod Bolsinger and Markus Watson unpack a powerful quote from Steve Carter, "You only learn resilience through the fire and through the suffering." This quote emerged from Steve Carter's experience of letting go of everything he had known and worked towards when he offered his resignation from a church leadership position in the wake of abuse allegations against the senior pastor, Bill Hybels. From this, the conversation explores the concept of resilience and how leaders are formed in the crucible of change and suffering. Tod Bolsinger draws from his work in Tempered Resilience to discuss the importance of reflection, relationships, and spiritual practices in developing resilience in the face of suffering.
Tod Bolsinger and Markus Watson discuss this quote from Markus Watson in Episode 163, You Can't Be Found if You're Never Lost :

“You only learn resilience through the fire and through the suffering.”
THIS EPISODE'S HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDE:

• Leaders develop resilience through facing the crucible of change and suffering.
• Reflecting, nurturing relationships, and spiritual practices are essential in developing resilience.
• Steve Carter's quote emphasizes the importance of willingly engaging with suffering to learn resilience.
• Formative leadership happens when individuals courageously face challenges, seeking growth amidst suffering.
• Resilience isn't just about enduring hardship, it's about embracing reflective practices and nurturing supportive relationships.

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