149/ How Azerbaijan is Greenwashing Genocide w/ Karena Avedissian and Anna

The Fire These Times

For episode 149, Joey sat down with Karena Avedissian and Anna, TFTT returnees and co-hosts of Obscuristan, a podcast which is soon joining the broader network (whaaat? - We talk about that at the beginning of the episode).

We talked about Azerbaijan hosting COP29 next year, the global climate conference, and why it might be a problem for a petro-dictatorship to host a climate conference. We discussed how Azerbaijan is trying to greenwash its recent genocide of the Armenians of Artsakh/Nagorno-Karabakh by claiming the area, devoid of its human population, has now achieved net-zero (yes, we're not joking). We also talked more broadly about the Armenian struggle for justice and what we might learn from the Palestinian one.

You'll also hear Joey's exclusive, world-premiere take on Aliyev's ridiculous mustache.

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Links

• Learn For Artsakh on Instagram
• Azerbaijan presents green energy potential of Karabakh and Eastern Zangezur at COP28 in Dubai (Archived link)
• Augmented Azerbaijan? The return of Azerbaijani irredentism by Laurence Broers
• Don’t water it down: The role of water security in the Armenia-Azerbaijan war by Nareg Kuyumjian
• The Azerbaijan pavilion at COP28 in Dubai (Archived link)
• Nvard Yerkanian: They Came With Peace
• Wikipedia overview of COP28

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Episode Credits

Hosts: Joey Ayoub, Karena Avedissian and Anna
Producer: Joey Ayoub
Music: ⁠Rap and Revenge⁠
Main theme design: ⁠Wenyi Geng⁠
Sound editor: Joey Ayoub
Episode design: Joey Ayoub