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The SEC Thinks Crypto Airdrops Are Securities. Here's Why This Lawyer Thinks It's Wrong - Ep. 707
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This week, Republican Representatives Tom Emmer and Patrick McHenry sent a letter pressing SEC Chair Gary Gensler for clarity on how securities laws apply to airdrops.
With billions of dollars worth of tokens airdropped this year alone, projects need clarity more than ever.
In this episode, Amanda Tuminelli, Chief Legal Officer of the DeFi Education Fund, dissects the SEC’s stance on airdrops, why her organization believes the SEC has stretched the legal definition of “compensation” too far, and what Congress might ask Gensler in his upcoming hearing.
Plus, she talks about how the SEC “regrets” any confusion it caused for using the term “crypto assets securities,” since the agency now admits that tokens themselves are not securities.
Show highlights:
- Why Amanda believes the SEC’s position on airdrops doesn’t make sense
- Why the DeFi Education Fund sued the SEC over the BEBA airdrop
- How the SEC’s position on airdrops has been clear for a while, but is “wrong” according to Amanda
- Her take on users bypassing the geographic restrictions to claim airdrops in the U.S.
- How and why the SEC has changed its language around “crypto assets securities”
- How the SEC’s new position on crypto assets implicating securities laws seems to rest on the “embodiment” theory
- Why Amanda believes the Supreme Court or Congress may be needed to step in
- What Amanda expects Congress to question Gary Gensler about in the hearing next week
- Amanda’s takeaways from the first Congressional DeFi hearing last week
- How she expects the presidential election will impact the regulatory landscape in the U.S.
Visit our website for breaking news, analysis, op-eds, articles to learn about crypto, and much more: unchainedcrypto.com
Thank you to our sponsors!
Guest
- Amanda Tuminelli, Chief legal officer of the DeFi Education Fund
- Previous appearances on Unchained:
- Gary Gensler’s Case Against Uniswap: Does the SEC Even Stand a Chance?
- Is This the End of DeFi? Why the US Government Is Going After Tornado Cash
Links
Airdrops:
- Blockworks: Republican Reps. ask Gensler for clarity on how securities laws apply to airdrops -
- Gabriel Shapiro’s tweet: “We may *disagree* that the position is correct but it's not unclear.”
- CoinDesk: Crypto Airdrops Ban U.S. Users, but Americans Are Claiming Tokens Anyway
- SEC’s amended complaint in the Binance case
BEBA case
First Congressional Hearing on DeFi
Timestamps:
- 00:00 Intro
- 01:42 SEC’s stance on airdrops
- 04:25 DeFi Education Fund’s lawsuit over BEBA
- 06:47 Amanda: SEC’s position on airdrops is “wrong”
- 08:27 Users bypassing geographic restrictions for airdrops
- 12:47 Why the SEC suddenly apologized for using the term “crypto asset securities” for years
- 16:47 Amanda’s take on what the SEC’s new theory is for why tokens fall under securities laws
- 17:43 Why Supreme Court or Congressional involvement is likely needed
- 19:01 What Congress might ask Gensler in a hearing next week
- 19:59 Key takeaways from the first Congressional DeFi hearing
- 20:43 Amanda’s take on how the presidential election might impact crypto
- 23:45 News Recap
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Manage episode 440911052 series 1822984
This week, Republican Representatives Tom Emmer and Patrick McHenry sent a letter pressing SEC Chair Gary Gensler for clarity on how securities laws apply to airdrops.
With billions of dollars worth of tokens airdropped this year alone, projects need clarity more than ever.
In this episode, Amanda Tuminelli, Chief Legal Officer of the DeFi Education Fund, dissects the SEC’s stance on airdrops, why her organization believes the SEC has stretched the legal definition of “compensation” too far, and what Congress might ask Gensler in his upcoming hearing.
Plus, she talks about how the SEC “regrets” any confusion it caused for using the term “crypto assets securities,” since the agency now admits that tokens themselves are not securities.
Show highlights:
- Why Amanda believes the SEC’s position on airdrops doesn’t make sense
- Why the DeFi Education Fund sued the SEC over the BEBA airdrop
- How the SEC’s position on airdrops has been clear for a while, but is “wrong” according to Amanda
- Her take on users bypassing the geographic restrictions to claim airdrops in the U.S.
- How and why the SEC has changed its language around “crypto assets securities”
- How the SEC’s new position on crypto assets implicating securities laws seems to rest on the “embodiment” theory
- Why Amanda believes the Supreme Court or Congress may be needed to step in
- What Amanda expects Congress to question Gary Gensler about in the hearing next week
- Amanda’s takeaways from the first Congressional DeFi hearing last week
- How she expects the presidential election will impact the regulatory landscape in the U.S.
Visit our website for breaking news, analysis, op-eds, articles to learn about crypto, and much more: unchainedcrypto.com
Thank you to our sponsors!
Guest
- Amanda Tuminelli, Chief legal officer of the DeFi Education Fund
- Previous appearances on Unchained:
- Gary Gensler’s Case Against Uniswap: Does the SEC Even Stand a Chance?
- Is This the End of DeFi? Why the US Government Is Going After Tornado Cash
Links
Airdrops:
- Blockworks: Republican Reps. ask Gensler for clarity on how securities laws apply to airdrops -
- Gabriel Shapiro’s tweet: “We may *disagree* that the position is correct but it's not unclear.”
- CoinDesk: Crypto Airdrops Ban U.S. Users, but Americans Are Claiming Tokens Anyway
- SEC’s amended complaint in the Binance case
BEBA case
First Congressional Hearing on DeFi
Timestamps:
- 00:00 Intro
- 01:42 SEC’s stance on airdrops
- 04:25 DeFi Education Fund’s lawsuit over BEBA
- 06:47 Amanda: SEC’s position on airdrops is “wrong”
- 08:27 Users bypassing geographic restrictions for airdrops
- 12:47 Why the SEC suddenly apologized for using the term “crypto asset securities” for years
- 16:47 Amanda’s take on what the SEC’s new theory is for why tokens fall under securities laws
- 17:43 Why Supreme Court or Congressional involvement is likely needed
- 19:01 What Congress might ask Gensler in a hearing next week
- 19:59 Key takeaways from the first Congressional DeFi hearing
- 20:43 Amanda’s take on how the presidential election might impact crypto
- 23:45 News Recap
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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