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Mix the Bartender’s Guide and Lives of the Saints, shake well, and garnish with good cheer! Join Michael and Alexandra Foley each week as they look at a feast day from that week's calendar, discuss that saint's life, and mix a cocktail appropriate for remembering and celebrating that saint, all while mixing in plenty of fun and good humor. Drinking with the Saints is a concoction that both sinner and saint will savor.
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Anne-Marie Zanzal, M.Div is the creator and host of Coming Out & Beyond | LGBTQIA+ Stories. She deeply believes that in the hearing of another's story we can often here our own. Her podcast focuses on sharing the coming out stories of the Queer community, with an emphasis on folks who have come out later in life. Later in life is a subjective term and her guests range in ages 25-80+. Coming out stories is what connect everyone in the LGBTQIA+ community. These stories are compelling, heartbre ...
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A Surfer’s Path

Philip Goodrich

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Surfers have often been portrayed in the media and pop culture as vapid burnouts with seawater dripping from our nose and ears. My day job as a studio artist doesn’t allow me to speak to many people , and when I do, I find it difficult to command anyone’s attention. This podcast is my attempt to examine and highlight extraordinary characters and places that shape the lives of surfers.. surfing, travel, religion and conspiracy theories are the subjects that dominate my thinking .
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This week on CO&B and in honor of LGBTQ+ History Month, we are revisiting an episode from season 1 featuring Judy Wilson. Judy grew up in Nashville, Tennessee in a Roman Catholic family. She came out in the early 1970’s and live in San Francisco during the AIDS crisis. Her story is a testament to the courageousness underground culture of those who …
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Mike and Alexandra discuss: The story of Wenceslaus The hymn associated with Wenceslaus Wenceslaus’s association with beer and wine and his connection to the origins of pilsener beer Drink of the Week: Pilsner Urquel Join Us on Pilgrimage! June 2025 "Liturgical Living Along the Rhine River" through the Netherlands, Germany, and France. SEE FULL DET…
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This episode of Coming Out and Beyond: LGBTQIA+ Stories featuring a conversation with lesbian couple's expert, Dr. Robin Sesan originally aired in December 2023. Today, we reshare this episode with you and invite you to join us at Dr. Sesan's upcoming workshop, Strengthening Love: Building Secure Bonds for Lesbian Couples, on Oct 17th in Provinceto…
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Coming out is often an ongoing process, and sometimes people come out selectively to the people around them. It is not unusual for our family members to be the last to know this important piece about our identity. Podcaster Sarah St. John understands this truth. While Sarah has a happy life with her partner, she has yet to come out to her family of…
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In her book, "Perfectly Queer," author Jillian Abby recounts her journey of coming out later in life and overcoming chronic perfectionism. Jillian began her metamorphosis as a wife in a heterosexual marriage, home-schooling mom, and CPA. Sensing a change was needed, Jillian transitioned her job to Licensed Massage Therapist, and as she engaged in p…
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After 10 years of unravelling her sexual identity, later-in-life lesbian Emily Bettdur came out and transformed her life. Now a later-in-life dating coach for women, Emily helps others feel connected to their authentic sexuality, navigate complex emotions, build self-esteem, and foster healthy relationships. In this episode, host Anne-Marie Zanzal …
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Mike and Alexandra discuss: Liebfraumilch wine and its origins The feast of the Nativity and other feasts of birthdays The most charming blessing in the Roman liturgy The connections between the feast of Mary’s nativity and the harvest Drink of the Week: Liebfraumilch wine Join Us on Pilgrimage! June 2025 "Liturgical Living Along the Rhine River" t…
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Have you ever felt so disconnected from your body that you don't know what you feel or want? This week's guest on Coming Out & Beyond: LGBTQIA+ Stories is Juliana Allen, a certified somatic breathwork facilitator who helps people become reconnected with their bodies and heal. Juliana, a later in life lesbian, found breathwork in her coming out proc…
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This week's guest, Wes Schmitz, was raised in a small farming community in central Illinois. While growing up, he retreated deeper and deeper into the closet, forced there by the rhetoric around him. In college, homophobic jokes on campus and in the frat house kept him in the closet. Wes came out at age 29, emerging from the darkness and into a bri…
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TW: Bullying. Raymond J Brune is Anne-Marie's special guest on this week's episode of Coming Out & Beyond: LGBTQIA+ Stories. So many people are a slave to their trauma; trauma that results from sexual abuse, accidents, the loss of a loved one, terrorism – even bullying. The impacts of trauma can last a lifetime. Raymond found a path to healing and …
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This week on Coming Out & Beyond: LGBTQIA+ stories, host Anne-Marie Zanzal chats with psychotherapist and art therapist, Jamie Winters. Jamie's professional experiences encompass a variety of roles, including social worker, educator, fine artist, farmer and yoga teacher. Jamie combines her love of neuroscience, psychology, art, nature, movement, an…
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In this very special Part 1 episode of Coming Out & Beyond: LGBTQIA+ Stories, host Anne-Marie Zanzal speaks with identical twins Ronda Landers and Jonda Valentine, both later-in-life lesbians and founders of Nashville's iconic bar, The Lipstick Lounge. Ronda and Jonda's stories reflect their remarkable journeys, beginning with growing up with their…
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Mike and Alexandra explore an unofficial feast of the liturgical calendar to discuss: Nonalcoholic beer Sour beer Wheat beer The origin of Lammas Day -mas Days Drinks of the Week: Martin House Brewing Company “Key Lime Pie Sour Ale” Athletic Brewing Company “Atlética” “Mas” Holidays The definitions of these words, in chronological order, are: Uphal…
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Therapist Dr. Andreya Jones and sex and relationship coach Angie Zimmerman are kink-aware practitioners whose work is centered on helping individuals have more rewarding relationships and fulfilling sex lives. Deconstructing from conservative religion, overcoming history of sexual abuse, finding acceptance in community, exploring polyamory, and fin…
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This week on CO&B, host Anne-Marie Zanzal welcomes somatic embodiment and sex coach, Ayce Kypton. Ayce's story relates a journey of coming into his authentic gender, embracing transmasculine identity, emerging from conservative faith tradition, and stepping into his sexuality after decades of celibacy. His story is also one of perseverance, as Ayce…
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Mike and Alexandra break from the liturgical calendar to discuss: Banana liqueur Listener feedback A newly approved Marian apparition Mike invents a new category of feast days What is the Sabbatine Privilege? Drink of the Week: Sabbatine Privilege, revised 1 oz. banana liqueur 1½ oz. dark rum ½ oz. cream Pour all ingredients into a shaker with ice …
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Ann Russo is a licensed clinical social worker, sex-positive therapist and founder of AMR Therapy. A therapist with over 20 years of experienced, she specializes in servicing marginalized communities, particularly in areas of sex positivity, queer issues, and religious trauma. Ann is a dedicated advocate for modern women's sexuality and is the auth…
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Struggling with the decision of whether to leave your marriage? This week on the Coming Out & Beyond podcast, host Anne-Marie Zanzal welcomes back producer Barb Rowlandson to talk about divorce as you're coming out. Many of the clients Anne-Marie and Barb work with have the challenge of untangling long-term marriages, and the process can be fraught…
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In this episode of the Que Bola podcast, I sat down with Will Thompson, the owner of Dead Flamingo Hospitality, Better Days, and Casa Tikki. Will shared his journey from starting as a bartender at TGI Fridays and P.F. Chang's to becoming a managing partner in various bars. He discussed the dynamics of the service industry in South Florida, highligh…
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This week on the CO&B podcast, host Anne-Marie Zanzal welcomes later-in-life lesbian and adventurer, Jill Holiday. Jill's story is one of remarkable perseverance and personal discovery. After becoming a teen mom, years of home schooling and a heteronormative life, Jill took a bold step out of her comfort zone and spent months hiking the Appalachian…
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Mike and Alexandra break from the liturgical calendar to discuss: Their trip to Hawaii Leprosy and the leper colony that still exists on Molokai The work of St. Damien on Molokai Drink of the Week: The St. Damien Cocktail, amplified 1 ½ oz. gin ¾ oz. pineapple juice ¼ oz. lemon juice ¼ oz. grenadine 1 pineapple chunk and 1 cherry for garnish 1 spla…
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"The Messy Middle" is the term coming out coaches use to describe the process of transformation from a straight life to life as an LGBTQIA+ person. In this episode Anne-Marie Zanzal invites her producer and fellow coming out coach, Barbara Rowlandson, do discuss the ins and outs and best practices for navigating this challenging time. Tune in for s…
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In this episode of the Que Bola podcast, I had the opportunity to interview several creative entrepreneurs and artists at Trina's second annual Rockstar Festival. The guests included Maiyia The Don, Bri Biase, Joddy Catalan, Nia Amber, Pretty Porcelain, Jessica Dime, 50 Jitt Steppa, Omni Clutch and Saint Riche. Each guest shared their unique journe…
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Mike and Alexandra discuss: Mike discovers Blanc Vermouth Fighting the Arian and Spirit Fighter heresies How our bodies are built for the transcendent St. Basil’s description of the equality of the sexes Feast: St. Basil the Great Drink of the Week: The Great Basil Cocktail, Revised 1 lime wedge 3-6 fresh basil leaves 2 oz. Dolin Blanc Vermouth 1½ …
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This week on Coming Out & Beyond: LGBTQIA+ Stories, host Anne-Marie Zanzal interviews queer author, playwright, abuse survivor, and former pastor, Trent Clifford. Trent's debut book, Reclaiming Faith, is a tender yet practical approach to uniting the spirituality you love with the religion you've lost. After surviving marital abuse and religious di…
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In this episode, host Anne-Marie Zanzal welcomes back psychotherapist and later-in-life lesbian Miriam Grace to talk about parenting and relationships with young adult children. With the strong trend of 'grey' divorces (divorces after age 50), many people find their grown children have a difficult time with changes to their parents' relationship. A…
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Dubbed "the Godfather of Gay Diversity Training" by the New York Times, Brian McNaught is considered on of the world's leading corporate diversity consultants dealing with lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and queer issues in the workplace. In this lively discussion, host Anne-Marie Zanzal and Brian McNaught talk about his coming out story, how h…
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Mike and Alexandra discuss: Alexandra makes up a cocktail for Corpus Christi Corpus Christi Traditions Year of the Eucharistic Revival The Eucharist as adventure Being worthy of our nourishment Feast: Corpus Christi Drink of the Week: The ??? 1 ½ oz tequila ½ oz elderflower liqueur ½ oz lemon juice 1 cherry for garnish Pour all liquid ingredients i…
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Nancy Shadlock is a missionary-kid-turned-youth-pastor-turned-spiritual-director-turned-coming out coach. When Nancy discovered that she didn't have to divorce her spirituality to embrace her sexuality, she started creating the life she always dreamed of but feared would never be possible. Now, as the founder of Centered Counseling and Coaching and…
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I had the pleasure of interviewing Gladys Ramirez, the executive director of City Theater Miami. Throughout the conversation, Gladys shared her journey from starting in theater at a young age to becoming a leader in the South Florida theater community. She emphasized the importance of creating inclusive and authentic theater experiences for diverse…
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Erika and Layla Quinones are an married couple who started an annual Pride celebration in their small town of Pulaski, TN. What began as a plan to welcome about 40 people to a potluck with a few vendors turned out to be an event that drew over 1300 visitors to the community. Pulaski has the dubious distinction of being the community where the KKK, …
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Mike and Alexandra discuss: The different colors of Creme de Cacao The Jewish roots of Pentecost Alexandra’s retreat with Miles Christi Some fun old music for Pentecost Full Pentecost Songs “Wings of a Dove” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tU-k5DwDMLE “Una Paloma Blanca” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPkgGtL-DDQ Feast: Pentecost Drink of the Week…
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Resiliency is the theme of this week's episode as host Anne-Marie Zanzal welcomes speaker and author, Marcie Macari. Marcie's life story has been a master class in resiliency, as she has faced numerous extraordinary challenges, which includes being abandoned and stranded in South Africa with her infant daughter after being shunned by her ex-husband…
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Over a quarter of adults are estranged from their parents. One of the greatest concerns that people face when coming out later in life is estrangement from their children. In this week's episode of Coming Out & Beyond: LGBTQIA+ Stories, host Anne-Marie Zanzal welcomes back guest Miriam Grace for a vulnerable discussion on parent/child estrangement …
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In this episode of the Que Bola podcast, we had a dynamic lineup of guests at the second annual Trina Rockstar Festival. The host, Daron Figueroa, engaged with a variety of creative entrepreneurs and artists, delving into their journeys and experiences in the creative industry. From SapphireBlazee discussing her hosting and interviewing experiences…
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Mike and Alexandra discuss: Their recent absence from recording episodes The story of St. Torpes and the city of St. Tropez How to approach Catholic saint stories that may not be historically accurate April 29: St. Torpes Drink of the Week: St-Tropez 1 oz. citrus-flavored vodka (or plain vodka) 1 oz. St-Germain liqueur ¼ oz. lemon juice tonic water…
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Krista Oakes is a certified yoga and meditation teacher specializing in working with beginners and seniors. She teaches gentle and chair yoga classes in Daytona Beach, Florida and nationally, online. Krista leads group wellness retreats and teaches yoga and meditations to corporations. Her classes focus on safety, proper body alignment, mindfulness…
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Fellow later-in-lifer and Philadelphia-based therapist Mallory Hanfling is our special guest on this episode of CO&B. Her practice, Courage to Grow Counseling, caters to the Queer community, working with individuals and couples, specializing in identity development, coming out, communication skills, and connecting with one's most authentic self. Ma…
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Lesbian dating – specifically when a long-time out lesbian dates a newly out lesbian – is the topic of this week's episode, featuring guest conversationalist, Tonda McKay. In addition to being an award-winning photographer and community advocate, Tonda holds a very special role of distinction: she is wife to podcast host, Anne-Marie Zanzal! Tonda a…
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Nita Agustin is a Queer and gender affirming clinical counselor based in Burnaby, B.C., Canada. Their jam is helping Queer youth and young adults find alignment within themselves so they can feel confident showing up in their own skin. This is accomplished by finding words to name their experiences and discover ways to live on their own terms. In t…
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This week on Coming Out & Beyond: LGBTQIA+ Stories, we introduce you to media PR expert, April Mason. April is the President of Violet PR, a busy agency that utilizes new and traditional media tools to craft powerful stories for their clients that shine a spotlight, attract new business, and enhance their public identity. April is also a later-in-l…
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In this episode of Coming Out & Beyond: LGBTQIA+ Stories, host Anne-Marie Zanzal speaks with transgender advocate and educator, Ben Greene. Ben is a sought after speaker who has spoken at international events and conferences about topics surrounding transgender inclusion. After coming out in 2015 living in a small town in Connecticut and givng a po…
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This week, we welcome back psychotherapist Miriam Grace to the podcast! Miriam first joined us in Season 2 to discuss catalyst lesbian relationships and recovering from the end of a first lesbian relationship. Miriam has over 30 years of experience as a humanistic therapist and primarily works with women to tackle life problems associated with sexu…
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In this episode of the Que Bola podcast, Mr. Mike Ortiz sits down with the host to discuss the journey of JoJo Tea, a unique tea company based in Miami. They delve into the origins of JoJo Tea, starting with a humble $2,000 investment and a passion for the art of tea brewing. The conversation explores the deep roots of tea culture, from the Big Ban…
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CiCi Reagan is a published author and copywriter who found her calling in message strategy and alignment for all types of businesses, from entrepreneurs to billion dollar corporations. She's also an international advocate for addiction and domestic abuse survivors, covered in Newsweek, Metro, and several award-winning podcasts. CiCi uses their vast…
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